Ok, not so much on this place, but particularly on the other magenta harbour, you always get people banging on about " industry practice" people in the industry, newness to the industry, etc, well, I have news for you! This is the internet, and all though a certain amount of real commercial work might take place , that's a rarity! Even if as a model you manage to find enough hobbyist to make a reasonable living out of it, you are still not "in the industry" rant over, feel free to comment